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I took a look at the latest plans for Cleve Hill. They estimate the solar farm at 373MW peak, and the battery is 150MW output, 700MWh of storage (though these figures are less certain). They have taken out a CFD under Allocation Round 4 covering 110MW of the solar capacity at a price that indexes currently to £56.99/MWh. I had forgotten that the major substation they will link to also serves the London Array wind farm, so they will be in a position to bid for wind surpluses to fill the battery in winter when solar output is low.

I found a local rooftop solar installation with excellent detailed historical data recorded here:

https://www.sunnyportal.com/Templates/PublicPageOverview.aspx?page=9ae1951a-36a3-439b-8e09-06697d5d1452&plant=71b0b704-3255-4883-82cf-26fb78a5e0ca&splang=en-US

It's located outside Rochester, just a few miles away, and gives an excellent idea of the likely performance of the solar park. You can look at individual days to see how a weather front can dramatically change the output in the space of a few minutes. You can see how variable output is from one day to the next within a month, and look at the monthly seasonality and compare the annual performance back to 2015. These variations limit the extent to which the battery can be used profitably as a solar store.

The battery is designed to take less than half the maximum solar output as a charge rate. Indeed, it's only a little bit bigger than the capacity contracted to CFD. The way the CFD works, if there is a general solar surplus that pushes prices down on sunny summer days, is that consumers get to pay the subsidy for the MWh generated from the 110MW of CFD capacity, which can be used to charge the battery. So from the consumer point of view the cost of charging the battery in £56.99/MWh, but the battery gets its supply at somewhere close to zero cost. The battery then gets to sell the output in the evening when prices are rather higher, covering the losses in the round trip. Its interest is to discharge at the best prices it can, not to maintain any even flow. In winter solar output is low, and in fact not sufficient to charge the battery fully. However, it may still make sense to divert all the output to the battery (whose input capacity can easily handle the low input), and then discharge it at premium prices in the evening rush hour which will be enough to draw down the stored energy as much as is wise. The battery economics are quite complicated, especially if you include the potential for other sources and providing grid ancillary services in the mix. But the optimum economics are going to be some way away from the idea of creating an even flow of output.

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If you forced solar to come with storage you wouldn't have much solar, especially if you demanded even flow across a day. If you wanted even flow across the year there would definitely be none, because interseasonal storage is prohibitively expensive. 4 hour duration storage (MWh holding capacity divided by MW of maximum output) has challenging economics: it's what they're putting in at the giant solar farm Cleve Hill near Faversham, where the storage might have a secondary role in supporting stabilisation of interconnector flows from BritNed and NEMO if they trip out.

It's much cheaper to curtail. Trouble is, curtailment tends only to apply to commercial ventures. There are difficulties with organising curtailment for domestic rooftop solar, including ensuring that it doesn't result in energy build-up that leads to house fires. You can see the effect on a typical summer day in South Australia (where excess solar drives grid prices negative)

https://i0.wp.com/wattsupwiththat.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/SA-Gen-5-Jan-23-1684966578.2893.png

Batteries don't really figure as a solution. The fact that rooftop solar doesn't see the negative prices is the start of the problem.

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