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Bill Johnson's avatar

Great analysis. Just a couple of comments:

Using data from later years, poses a problem in that it includes a substantial amount of curtailment. When modelling their grid, I default to earlier years to get a more accurate picture.

You may be interested in https://wrjohn1.substack.com/p/grid-based-energy-storage-explained where I talk about "How Much Storage Capacity is Needed". I discuss the trade-off between Capex and FCOE.

You mention "Diminishing Returns" for energy storage. But, it also has a major effect on actual generation. I talk about it in: https://wrjohn1.substack.com/p/wind-solar-and-the-effect-of-diminishing

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michael fasold's avatar

Chris I understand you are making a point on LDES.

It would be interesting to increase the mix with RNG to help run the balance of NG dispatchers and adding Nuclear? The RNG CCS fuels aviation etc. and reduces organics which would decompose anyway.

Given this reality if the population would also adjust their habits to help reduce the demand response what could that look like?

Cryogenic plants have been around for 100+ years. Today a large Cryo separation plant runs at +98% capacity year-round. No issues with Liquid Air storage IMO other than economics. It requires serious level of industrialization to be reshored. There is also CO2 cryo storage being demoed.

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